tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post115090023523162875..comments2024-03-29T05:13:13.015-04:00Comments on Mayerson on Animation: Fred Moore Drawings from The Little WhirlwindMark Mayersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-1151456793442042852006-06-27T21:06:00.000-04:002006-06-27T21:06:00.000-04:00Michael, when you say you have the original, do yo...Michael, when you say you have the original, do you mean that you have the version that is physically pasted up from Moore's drawings and magazine clippings? Or do you have an original photostat model sheet from Disney? Just curious.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-1150937429558546512006-06-21T20:50:00.000-04:002006-06-21T20:50:00.000-04:00Those model sheet drawings are definitely from two...Those model sheet drawings are definitely from two of Moore's scenes in the film, so if Kimball had anything to do with those sheets, it probably was compiling them. I can't conceive that Kimball was doing keys for Moore.<BR/><BR/>I'm also surprised about no effects animator being listed for scene 16 and assume it was an oversight. As Jack Boyd did the scenes immediately before and after, it's likely that he did 16 as well.<BR/><BR/>But this brings up a lot of questions about what effects animators (if they should be called that here) actually did. Certainly some things -- the tornadoes, the water, the blast of air from Mickey yelling, the aroma from the cake, the flour -- should be handled by an effects animator. But the marching leaves? And the cake? There are many shots here with two or three animators listed and it's hard to figure out how the work would be divided.<BR/><BR/>Should some of these animators be referred to as junior animators or animating assistants if what they're doing -- like the cake -- is not really an effect?Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-1150931858730009752006-06-21T19:17:00.000-04:002006-06-21T19:17:00.000-04:00At our studio we often made modelsheets from other...At our studio we often made modelsheets from other animator's drawings if the need arose - so it is very possible--plausible, even--that Kimball took Freddie's animation (which was to be followed) and made these sheets of them. (Now you say so, I also seem to recall being told many years ago (by my old mentor Ring) that it was Kimball who did this cut'n'paste job.)Hans Perkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12707924880609997693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-1150927576483852012006-06-21T18:06:00.000-04:002006-06-21T18:06:00.000-04:00I was told years ago that it was Kimball, not Fred...I was told years ago that it was Kimball, not Fred Moore, who actually drew these sheets; certainly it's Kimball's style and sense of humor to apply the seemingly unrelated words cut out from magazines that surround the poses--but as Mark identifies the animation from these poses as largely Fred's, it's a certainty then, that Fred did this? I always thought it must be.Jenny Lerewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06668171465801333811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-1150925880822469872006-06-21T17:38:00.000-04:002006-06-21T17:38:00.000-04:00I am VERY surprised that sc.16 doesn't have an eff...I am VERY surprised that sc.16 doesn't have an effects animator assigned to it on the draft. Things like leaves, rake, basket and whirlwind etc. would normally never be done by the animator other than indicated (as on the modelsheet ruffs), and then be finished by effects. I would be very surprised if Freddie's own assistant did these...Hans Perkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12707924880609997693noreply@blogger.com