tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post1216369190629301249..comments2024-03-24T16:25:05.751-04:00Comments on Mayerson on Animation: Dumbo Part 25Mark Mayersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-47787358738157149172010-10-18T23:20:00.035-04:002010-10-18T23:20:00.035-04:00Thank you for the time and effort involved in post...Thank you for the time and effort involved in posting this. Amazing.<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to go all the way to "The Aristocats" to even find the next black voice actor in a feature - Scatman Crothers.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12098471743485897147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-79168817732293844922010-10-18T23:16:34.948-04:002010-10-18T23:16:34.948-04:00A little Googling yielded this info from the book ...A little Googling yielded this info from the book "All About Oscar":<br /><br />"Gossip columnist Hedda Hopper claimed it was her idea to honor Baskett as a humanitarian gesture. Some Academy board members opposed the award because Baskett played a slave, feeling that Negroes should play only professionals, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Similar objections were raised in 1939, when Hattie McDaniel won the Supporting Actress for playing a servant in Gone With the Wind. According to Hopper, Jean Hersholt threatened after a heated argument that, if Baskett didn't receive an Oscar, 'I shall stand up tomorrow night and tell the world the whole disgraceful story.' The board gave in and asked Hollywood's then-most-popular star, Ingrid Bergman, to present Baskett the award."<br /><br />I read elsewhere that Baskett was known to be sick; he died in 1948. It is a great and historic performance; too bad that we aren't officially allowed to see it. (I cherish my VHS copy of the Japanese laserdisc.)Galen Fotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672517702137669580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-45466127088593406442010-10-18T22:02:34.135-04:002010-10-18T22:02:34.135-04:00Just the times, I would imagine. Remember, Baskett...Just the times, I would imagine. Remember, Baskett was not even allowed to attend the Atlanta premiere because of his color.Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-87108885422485708922010-10-18T21:53:54.801-04:002010-10-18T21:53:54.801-04:00No idea, Galen.No idea, Galen.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-12262870510543489642010-10-18T10:38:23.779-04:002010-10-18T10:38:23.779-04:00James Baskett was the second African-American Osca...James Baskett was the second African-American Oscar recipient, for his portrayal of Uncle Remus. I wonder though what was the reasoning behind his "honorary" Oscar? Why wasn't he nominated for a regular Oscar?Galen Fotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672517702137669580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-53207289547968233922010-10-17T22:39:04.067-04:002010-10-17T22:39:04.067-04:00No, Galen, you're right. I ran through the an...No, Galen, you're right. I ran through the animated features in my head but somehow skipped Song of the South.<br /><br />I think that film both embraces and subverts stereotypes, too. I really wish the studio would release it. While it's easy to have a knee-jerk reaction to the film as racist (and there are parts of it that make me uncomfortable), I do think that in many ways the film is anti-racist, portraying the white people as insensitive fools.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-4610629706987156682010-10-17T22:27:17.422-04:002010-10-17T22:27:17.422-04:00Mark, this has been fascinating all the way throug...Mark, this has been fascinating all the way through. I want to echo many others when I say that your analysis is equal to any writing on film that I've ever read.<br /><br />One question though: When you say Dumbo was the only Disney feature to address racial issues until The Princess and the Frog, are you forgetting Song of the South? Or is there a reason it doesn't qualify in your view?Galen Fotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672517702137669580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-4503652912407326692010-10-17T14:07:45.932-04:002010-10-17T14:07:45.932-04:00To Mark, thanks for the great mosaics, of course. ...To Mark, thanks for the great mosaics, of course. Many people seem to only be able to understand the information in the drafts if presented in this way, and therefor your work is instrumental in getting this out to the masses! Lots of kudos!Hans Perkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12707924880609997693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-85375634522066041402010-10-17T14:05:41.443-04:002010-10-17T14:05:41.443-04:00Not at all impossible, Steven...Not at all impossible, Steven...Hans Perkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12707924880609997693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-85391982028549519152010-10-17T14:04:24.752-04:002010-10-17T14:04:24.752-04:00Well, it's been a fun ride, thanks for doing t...Well, it's been a fun ride, thanks for doing these mosaics up, they are lots of fun to investigate.<br /><br />Shots 11 and 12 must be animated by Bill Tytla.Zartok-35https://www.blogger.com/profile/00449976580118722879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-91035939080968497942010-10-17T13:46:22.134-04:002010-10-17T13:46:22.134-04:00Eric, I hope to see more mosaics soon, although th...Eric, I hope to see more mosaics soon, although there is a complete draft to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - but the only section of Fantasia that Hans Perk has scanned is the famous "Sorcerer's Apprentice" section - all the rest have got been put on Hans Perk's site - although he might post all of the pages of the drafts before long.Steven Hartleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13825398324719609394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-17961204988794725662010-10-17T13:30:30.490-04:002010-10-17T13:30:30.490-04:00You bring up a very interesting point about Disney...You bring up a very interesting point about Disney films after the war. I think that they helped to contribute to the stereotype as animated films being only for kids. Thus the patterns Disney set back then are now the neverending standards by which all animated films must follow if they are to be made in Hollywood.<br /><br />I am constantly amazed by your keen insights into these film. Actually comparing <i>Dumbo</i> to Ralph Bakshi's work is quite apt. Both have animation that could be considered sloppy, but deal with more adult issues. Disney just did it more subtly.<br /><br />I love reading your mosaics. I hope we get to see more soon, maybe of <i>Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs</i> or sections of <i>Fantasia</i>?Eric Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05872046921674512158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-18546750518695139862010-10-17T12:34:23.027-04:002010-10-17T12:34:23.027-04:00It looks like this sequence was rushed while in pr...It looks like this sequence was rushed while in production - and maybe because the layouts weren't credited and only three effect artists got the credit: Kossoff, Tobin and Reed.<br /><br /> --<br /><br />I'd like to thank both Hans Perk for posting the draft and also to thank Mark Mayerson for creating such great mosaics in your own time and of all the effort.<br /><br />Now that Dumbo is finished, I guess my Pecos Bill mosaic is still going on and after that; I was thinking of doing Alice in Wonderland as a mosaic.<br /><br />Thank you once again, it's been a fun time looking at these...Steven Hartleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13825398324719609394noreply@blogger.com