tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post3967214099854122585..comments2024-03-24T16:25:05.751-04:00Comments on Mayerson on Animation: Marvel Comics: The Untold StoryMark Mayersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-24737216723037782342012-11-24T18:56:26.715-05:002012-11-24T18:56:26.715-05:00This post should be titled "The Song Remains ...This post should be titled "The Song Remains The Same" as it's really an unchanged story that goes back generations.<br /><br />I see you've been getting pushback too, probably from younger fans. A sure sign of getting old.<br /><br />I can only agree 100% with your logic, but will this ever change? Artists getting the shaft is a constant - dog bites man. It's a rarity when someone manages to break thru that syndrome. <br /><br />I'd just like to add that although you are right about Lee getting all the credit, the reason is because of his skills at self-promotion. He generates his own PR and that's why it get printed. If Kirby or any of the others would have made as much noise, they too would have a higher profile (and possibly a bit more money). "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend"<br /><br />PS: Not to be critical, but it's "different from .... other than". Being in Canada is not a sufficient excuse !! (That's hardly different than the $140 million...)A. Greenfieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-72202816669103720012012-10-29T06:28:10.500-04:002012-10-29T06:28:10.500-04:00Say what you will about Kirby's 1970s work, bu...Say what you will about Kirby's 1970s work, but DC comics has been using the cast of his New Gods for the last 40 years in comics and animation. Marvel has also seen fit to revive The Eternals at least once.<br /><br />I would also point out that Kirby's tenure on the 1970s characters was shorter than the 1960s because he was dissatisfied with his working conditions and didn't renew his 1970s contracts with either DC or Marvel. Would the Fantastic Four or Thor be as well thought of today if Kirby produced fewer than 20 issues of each? Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-77481705876842042832012-10-29T04:09:01.187-04:002012-10-29T04:09:01.187-04:00I'm not amongst Stanley Leiber's fans. Bu...I'm not amongst Stanley Leiber's fans. But I think that one should note that none of the three — Leiber, Kirby, or Ditko — created characters of comparable significance after the latter two departed.<br /><br />(In particular, Kirby's bronze-age work at DC looks like dreadful self-parody.)<br /><br />Disentangling who is responsible for what is at best difficult. (Of course, matters are not helped by Leiber's propensity to <em>lie</em>.)Daniel [oeconomist.com]https://www.blogger.com/profile/06763094285750736837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-67857340485163526912012-10-27T11:54:17.116-04:002012-10-27T11:54:17.116-04:00No. But whatever good work came after the creator...No. But whatever good work came after the creators would not have been possible without the initial creation. Since the company is continuing to make money from that original work (even though the people running the company now and the current stockholders weren't there when the work was created), why shouldn't the original creators?Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-59051426326620588192012-10-27T11:44:12.637-04:002012-10-27T11:44:12.637-04:00You do think that characters like Superman or Spid...You do think that characters like Superman or Spider-man were good only with their original creators?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-34962604944695213542012-10-26T07:48:57.206-04:002012-10-26T07:48:57.206-04:00Lee's work during that time period is of conse...Lee's work during that time period is of consequence, but so is the work of the artists who often plotted the stories and definitely designed the characters. Had the artists earned as much as Lee has, I would have no complaint.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-19831859079717131072012-10-26T01:01:59.624-04:002012-10-26T01:01:59.624-04:00Are we to assume that Stan Lee's work between ...Are we to assume that Stan Lee's work between 1961 and 1969 is of no consequence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com