tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post422139472596597945..comments2024-03-29T05:13:13.015-04:00Comments on Mayerson on Animation: 101 Dalmatians: Part 1Mark Mayersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-71476897589653508702008-04-02T20:18:00.000-04:002008-04-02T20:18:00.000-04:00Andrew, thank you very much for that comment. The...Andrew, thank you very much for that comment. The information on the live action reference performers is great.<BR/><BR/>I, too, would have assumed that Barbara Luddy did a voice somewhere in the film. It's ironic that she didn't when Lady, who Luddy voiced, has a cameo.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-90069386152297469032008-04-02T19:17:00.000-04:002008-04-02T19:17:00.000-04:00Hey, Mark. Great post, and a clarification on the ...Hey, Mark. Great post, and a clarification on the "with the talents of," apart from Mary Wickes. For several movies beginning in the 1950s, the Disney studio used that as a catch all, as you surmised, which also included live action reference performers. Peter Pan credits Roland Dupree, a dancer who did live action reference only, though again, IMDb assumes he did "Extra Voices" which he didn't. Don Barclay is credited in a ton of films, and as far as my research and discussion with other experts like Keith Scott shows, he *never* did voices, but did a ton of live action reference, and thus was usually billed for it (for "Alice in Wonderland," he did the Walrus; for Pan, Mr. Smee). So as far as 101 goes, the following five names crosswise were all that only: Paul Wexler (lean character actor and around the time a bit player in Mickey Mouse Club serials; modeled for Jasper and according to some sources, the Quizmaster), Helene Stanley (the usual Disney model for the heroines, as Anita), Mary Wickes (Cruella, as noted), Don Barclay (Horace and judging from the DVD bonus images, also Dirty Dawson) and Barbara Luddy (as Nanny; in this case, confusion makes more sense since she usually did voices for the studio, but multiple viewings confirm she isn't heard anywhere in the final product).Andrew Lealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536423892525694724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-45550136550694037852008-03-31T17:03:00.000-04:002008-03-31T17:03:00.000-04:00Yeah, great credits, but they were more Disney tha...Yeah, great credits, but they were more Disney than Saul Bass. We were certainly aware of Saul's work, but the Disney artists weren't trying to ape Bass. This was the opportunity to do something cooler with the credits. <BR/><BR/>We did have a great title department, however. Some of those guys even did work for me on the side. They were awesome. Sadly, title departments are a thing of the past, and today's work is farmed out.Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-30033500759329025282008-03-30T20:53:00.000-04:002008-03-30T20:53:00.000-04:00Will, thanks for the confirmation that Mary Wickes...Will, thanks for the confirmation that Mary Wickes didn't do any voices. The IMDB is wrong once again.<BR/><BR/>Bass really did change things in the '50s. While there were movie titles that included animation before him, they didn't have anywhere near his influence.Mark Mayersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-23608141944701430872008-03-30T20:33:00.000-04:002008-03-30T20:33:00.000-04:00They certainly would have been aware of Saul Bass'...They certainly would have been aware of Saul Bass' work, but I think that most of the charm of the Dalmatians' titles is that the crew were experimenting with what the new Xerox process could do.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't read too mucn into the 'receding credits' for the directors...it may be overanalysis of a simple graphic statement.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03559138404570089435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-23243546142785854412008-03-30T19:40:00.000-04:002008-03-30T19:40:00.000-04:00I did a bit of onscreen commentary for the current...I did a bit of onscreen commentary for the current edition of DALMATIONS and I mentioned the Saul Bass connection but i don't think that comment made it into the actual used footage. I have to suspect others made similar comments...<BR/><BR/>I also can confirm that Mary Wickes did not do any voices for this film (she was the voice for my character in HUNCHBACK nearly thirty years later). I got to talk with her a bit about DALMATIONS while we were recording and though she was initially confused she ultimately just went with it and was delighted with the finished product. A lot of Cruella's hand gestures seem to come from her.Will Finnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01297122976077620877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-27807237661404201492008-03-30T17:51:00.000-04:002008-03-30T17:51:00.000-04:00My "favorite" opening titles were for Billy Wilder...My "favorite" opening titles were for Billy Wilder's Seven Year Itch... You know, the credits so small you can barely read half of them. (Obviously, they weren't prepared for how they would read in Cinemascope.)<BR/><BR/>Kidding aside, I absolutely love the titles the Lantz studio animated for <I>Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein</I>.Thadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443425643665474645noreply@blogger.com