tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post499456921041094901..comments2023-12-31T01:23:39.943-05:00Comments on Mayerson on Animation: Jim TyerMark Mayersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00065971589878678848noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-88417820450077357432012-10-30T18:07:33.713-04:002012-10-30T18:07:33.713-04:00Ive always been a huge Fleischer/Famous fan nad th...Ive always been a huge Fleischer/Famous fan nad think that firing Jim Tyer was a big Mistake on the part of Famous Studios and probably cost them in the long run. His Popeyes were first rate- Were on our way To Rio and Rocket To Mars are my 2 favorite Tyer episodes. with WWII over and guys like Tom Johnson, Frank Endres and Al Eugster returning,mabye Tyer was the odd man out. Imagine Tyer turned loose on Baby Huey, Herman and Katnip and others,mabyr even Casper! This Iwould have loved to see.Also Ive always wondered why Dave Tendlar did no more Popeyes after 1949. He was amainstay since 1935,and this is rather peculiar. Anyone able to shed light on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-84025632862952063152008-01-11T18:03:00.000-05:002008-01-11T18:03:00.000-05:00Happy New Year MarkThanks for this posting!!I've l...Happy New Year Mark<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this posting!!<BR/><BR/>I've long loved the sheer fun and inventiveness of the H&J cartoons. They had a profound effect upon my early animation. <BR/><BR/>To me, it is all about funny drawings, and the element of surprise, and this compilation is rife with 'em!!<BR/><BR/>This has been a perfect antidote to a malady I've been suffering lately.... I'm not sure what you' d call it, but it is the trembles and shakes I get while watching what passes for most animation these days, especially "animation" create in Flash-like programs.<BR/><BR/>You probably know the kind I mean..thoughtless, lazy, unappealing movement, generated by the tools the program has to offer, with little input from the 'animator".<BR/><BR/>Volumes "squashed" digitally and awkwardly, heads pivoting weirdly, and arms and hands moving without joint consideration are only a few of things that make most of this type of "animation' most unwatchable.<BR/><BR/>Just because it moves does not mean it is animation.<BR/><BR/>There is good Flash-like animation out there, but it comes as no surprise that the best of it is hand drawn initially. <BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the post Mark. It brought a huge smile to my face.Willy Ashworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06769471999669109784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-56902146924166494912008-01-03T12:32:00.000-05:002008-01-03T12:32:00.000-05:00I don't know how Tyer's stuff moves -- no matter h...I don't know how Tyer's stuff moves -- no matter how much I see it, I just don't get it! I want to be able to do it like he did. He always seems to treat the drawings as drawings, and not entirely as 3D forms. It's so lively and fun! How did he do it!?<BR/><BR/>Happy '08 Mark!Mitchel Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11645009912553755049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-69560089740458949212008-01-01T21:14:00.000-05:002008-01-01T21:14:00.000-05:00Mark your comments here and on Thad's are spot on ...Mark your comments here and on Thad's are spot on and precisely put. I started getting "into" Tyer as an adult right around the time I came back to Disney and everybody thought I was nuts for liking Terrytoons. I didn't take much advantage of buying the VHS tapes that were around though (except SIDNEY) and i regret it. Every time I get to see one though, it blows my mind.<BR/><BR/>The most startling thing IMO about Tyer is the fact that everything he does would almost certainly ruin anyone else's work. Animation usually works best when it is more or less direct and devoid of tangental ideas, yet Tyer makes these his stock in trade. Somehow it's all "clear" too: you can see and understand everything he's doing (even extraneous effects) and it somehow all "flows" in spite of the general lack of simple or even direct motion patterns. And of course it is funny as hell.<BR/><BR/>Lastly I'll add that after watching decades of "experimental" and "independent" animation, it is ironic that these cheaply done Terrytoons harbor such nuggets of genuinely natural genius.Will Finnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01297122976077620877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-33500215860885073882008-01-01T20:18:00.000-05:002008-01-01T20:18:00.000-05:00It's interesting that at Famous, Dan Gordon and Iz...It's interesting that at Famous, Dan Gordon and Izzy Sparber were the ones who, for whatever reason, allowed Tyer's style to develop. He was never permitted by Seymour Kneitel to experiment as much when he supervised his Popeyes, and Bill Tytla put Tyer under extensive wraps after their first cartoon together.<BR/><BR/>(For me the first noticeable thing about the Tyer cartoons under Gordon and Sparber was how ugly and off-model some of the scenes were compared to the other cartoons done at the same time. Then I started connecting both the animation and the head animator to the fact that these were also among the funniest Popeyes done during that period, and that about the time Tyer left the studio, they started getting less and less funny.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-27033332429110920142008-01-01T20:16:00.000-05:002008-01-01T20:16:00.000-05:00Thanks Mark!Tyer is definitely one of the greats, ...Thanks Mark!<BR/>Tyer is definitely one of the greats, and I don't think his narrow range should hurt him when compared to others. That's sort of like saying Groucho Marx or Stan Laurel are lesser actors for the same reason.<BR/>Looking forward to your blogging in '08!Thadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443425643665474645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-72498867775322493432008-01-01T16:49:00.000-05:002008-01-01T16:49:00.000-05:00Hey Mark Great retrospect on Tyer. You as well as ...Hey Mark Great retrospect on Tyer. You as well as I never realized how talented he actually was. There is some absolutely amazing and inventive stuff going on in this compilation. Though it may lack weight and anticipation in some area's which is accustomed to our formalist animation point of views. Thanks for sharing this!<BR/>Also I was wondering will you ever make some print outs of your dissertation on Pinocchio, if so I would love to buy a copy from you :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27501132.post-14004143589687006872008-01-01T16:48:00.000-05:002008-01-01T16:48:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com